Topic: Abiogenesis and Evolution
Link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TxD5NaHsgU
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Interlocutor 1: J. L Warren
Pro-evolution
Interlocutor 2: Eric Jewell
Anti-evolution
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Format
Eric: 12 minute intro
J.L.: 12 minute intro
J.L.: 10 minute cross
Eric: 10 minute cross
Both: 15 minute open discussion
Break
Both: 20-40 minute Q&A from Audience
Eric: 3 minute closing statement
J.L.: 3 minute closing statement
Eric Jewel citations:
- “The Biological Species Concept defines a species taxon as a group of organisms that can successfully interbreed and produce fertile offspring. “
- “species, in biology, classification comprising related organisms that share common characteristics and are capable of interbreeding. This biological species concept is widely used in biology and related fields of study.”
- “Uranium-lead dating can be used to date igneous rocks from 1 million years to around 4.5 billion years old.”
- “Hard sciences use math explicitly, they have more control over the variables and conclusions. They include physics, chemistry and astronomy. Soft sciences use the process of collecting empirical data…”
- “. . .Fossils may tell us many things, but one thing they can never disclose is whether they were ancestors of anything else.”
- — Dr. Colin Patterson, senior paleontologist at the British Museum of Natural History.
- there is no time for evolution
- Craig Venter says tree of life is a fiction
- https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4146
- potassium argon presupposes rock to be at least 600,000 years old
- A) https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/fossils-found-from-day-dinosaurs-died-chicxulub-tanis-cretaceous-extinction
- “Mere minutes after a miles-wide asteroid slammed into Earth 66 million years ago, a hailstorm of tiny glass beads rained down on a flooding estuary in what’s now North Dakota. As seismic waves from the impact thrashed the water, plants and animals were jumbled up and buried in the shifting sediments”
- “…the North Dakota site potentially represents an entire ecosystem affected by the catastrophe”
- ” there are signs of creatures at Tanis that normally lived out at sea. The study documents some fragmentary marine fossils, including the teeth of ancient sharks, aquatic reptiles called mosasaurs, and an extinct type of mollusk called an ammonite. DePalma and his teams interpret the mix of land and ocean animals as a sign that water from an inland sea suddenly washed upriver, spilling its guts onto the riverbanks at Tanis. (See other evidence for a mass shark extinction in the wake of the asteroid strike.)’
- B) From “the great triassic floods at https://www.earthdate.org/node/150
- “The rain caused floods across the planet for many thousands of years”. “The oldest dinosaur footprints in Europe appear in rocks deposited after volcanic eruptions caused repeated extreme global flooding that resulted in major extinctions.”
- This was presented by Dr Scot TinkerDr. Tinker is Director of the 250-person Bureau of Economic Geology, the State Geologist of Texas, and a professor holding the Edwin Allday Endowed Chair in the Jackson School of Geosciences at The University of Texas at Austin. With Director Harry Lynch, Tinker coproduced and is featured in the award-winning energy documentary film Switch, which has been screened in over 50 countries to more than 15 million viewers and is used on thousands of K-through-12 and college campuses.
- C) From New Scientist at https://www.newscientist.com/article/2198347-incredible-fossil-find-may-be-first-victims-of-dino-killer-asteroid/
- “The site’s sediments also suggest that a sudden rush of water overtook it… the site’s sloshing must have occurred within the first hour after impact.Instead, the team thinks that the floods were seiche waves, pulses of flooding caused by magnitude 10 to 11 earthquakes triggered by the impact… the asteroid impact would have generated such waves that would have sloshed bodies of water around the world.”
- Triassic Period | Plants, Animals, Major Events, & Factshttps://www.britannica.com › science › Triassic-Period”At the beginning of the Triassic Period, the present continents of the world were grouped together into one large C-shaped supercontinent named Pangea”
- Also from the Natural History Museum (UK)
- https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/the-triassic-period-the-rise-of-the-dinosaurs.html
- The Triassic Period: the rise of the dinosaurs – Natural History … “The supercontinent Pangea. The Triassic is largely defined by extinctions, but it is also characterized by the position of the continents at that time.”
- …and 2 continents during the jurassic
- https://www.britannica.com/science/Jurassic-Period
- “The landmasses were grouped into a northern region—Laurasia—consisting of North America and Eurasia, and a southern region—Gondwana—consisting of South America, Africa, India, Antarctica, and Australia.”
- c-14 pinpoint dinos within 40,000 years… younger dryas period is the ONE period within 40,000 years with all the conditions present to cover these massive bodies and make all these sediment layers worldwide at roughly the same time… Scientists are scrambling to offer apologetics to explain away the young c14 readings for dino bones… https://online.ucpress.edu/abt/article/82/2/72/109723/Radiocarbon-in-Dinosaur-Fossils-Compatibility-with
- so their explanation is that you cant trust radiometric reading because of seepage in and out of these “not completely fossilized” “fossilstherefore we cannot trust the deep time claims given from radiometric dating…Horner refuses enrights 20,000 plus to have his dino bones tested for c 14, citing the “spin” we would get from the results, knowing they would test younghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXy7EH13lCo
- https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/03/190329144223.htm
- A) https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/fossils-found-from-day-dinosaurs-died-chicxulub-tanis-cretaceous-extinction
- https://www.washington.edu/news/2019/03/29/north-dakota-site-shows-wreckage-from-same-object-that-killed-the-dinosaurs/
- https://www.science.org/content/article/massive-crater-under-greenland-s-ice-points-climate-altering-impact-time-humans
- the world was on fire
- https://www.universetoday.com/141804/almost-13000-years-ago-a-comet-impact-set-everything-on-fire/
- Dinosaur death pose
J. L. Warren citations:
- Evolution, genesis and revelations, with readings from Empedocles to Wilson
- Lehigh University Department of Biology Position on Evolution and “Intelligent Design”.
- Long Term Experimental Evolution Project, Dr. Richard Lenski – Michigan State University
- https://www.statedclearly.com/articles/deep-dive-how-do-point-mutations-create-new-genetic-information/
- https://www.technologynetworks.com/genomics/articles/rna-polymerase-function-and-definition-346823
- https://courses.lumenlearning.com/wm-biology1/chapter/reading-rna-polymerase/
- THE LOCI OF EVOLUTION: HOW PREDICTABLE IS GENETIC EVOLUTION?
- Clonality inference in multiple tumor samples using phylogeny
- Genomic release-recapture experiment in the wild reveals within-generation polygenic selection in stickleback fish
- Giant lungfish genome elucidates the conquest of land by vertebrates
- McMaster University researchers testing origins of life theory in new planet simulator
- McMaster University early Earth simulator creates cell-like structures
- Rapid hybrid speciation in Darwin’s finches
- Spontaneous Formation of RNA Strands, Peptidyl RNA, and Cofactors
- Edward O. Wilson & Robert H. MacArthur (Wilson – Biologist/MacArthur – Ecologist)
- Kimura, Motoo, 1924-. Stochastic Processes in Population Genetics. 1956.
- Sanford, John C.-. Genetic Entropy and the Mystery of the Genome. 2005,2008.
- History of evolutionary thought
- Meet Tiktaalik roseae: An Extraordinary Fossil Fish
- Selman v. Cobb County School District
- New Scientist 25 June 1981
- Gould, Stephen Jay 1983. “Evolution as Fact and Theory” in Hens Teeth and Horse’s Toes: Further Reflections in Natural History. New York: W. W. Norton & Co., p. 258-260.
- By Prof. R. Wiedersheim, The Structure of Man: an Index to his Past History. translated by H. and M. Bernard. 8vo, pp. xxi + 227. (London: Macmillan and Co., 1895.)
- Famous peppered moth’s dark secret revealed
- Scopes Monkey Trial 1925 – Complete Trial Transcripts
- The evolution of whales
- Evolutionary Inference across Eukaryotes Identifies Specific Pressures Favoriting Mitochondrial Gene Retention
- Molecular systematics of armadillos (Xenarthra, Dasypodidae): contribution of maximum likelihood and Bayesian analyses of mitochondrial and nuclear genes
- Genetics and evolution of the mitochondrial genome of Metazoans
- Biogeography of worm lizards (Amphisbaenia) driven by end-Cretaceous mass extinction
- SYSTEMATICS OF THE AMPHISBAENIA (LEPIDOSAURIA:SQUAMATA) BASED ON MORPHOLOGICAL EVIDENCE FROM RECENT AND FOSSIL FORMS
- Scientists Feel Miscast in Film on Life’s Origin
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